and a number of states, including delaware, last week, received innovation grants from the department of health and human services, to focus on exactly that. >> chris: well, i want to stay weather obamacare, though, if you will. governor walker, you refused the expanded medicaid even though the feds were talking about picking up all the cost as governor markell mentions for the first three years and 90% thereafter and you said we will not run the health exchange, we'll let washington do it. how come? >> well, for us, every state is different and the governor and i talked about it not only between democrats and republicans and sometimes amidst members of the same party and in our case it was a better deal not to take the funds, and, instead, we're able to do an alternative, we reduced the number of uninsured, 224,580 and reduced the number of people on medicare, put 87,000 people into the marketplace and replaced them with 82,000 people who currently are living in poverty today, and weren't eligible, under a cap in the past from my predecessor.